Waiting for the Supremes to sing

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  1. Russ Steele says:

    RL,

    You left out those dying because the death panels that thought diabetic treatments were too expensive the patient too old to be worth saving. If you want to know what Obamacare rationing will be like look at the military medial system. Combat troops have first priority by rank, General over Privates, and then families of combat troops, then the support troop and their families, and then the retried, that is if there are any appointments left open. You can be rest assured that there will be a medical caste systems under Obamacare. Politicians and families, Union workers and families, other workers and families and then the retired. That is if there are any appointments left open for the retired. They will be at the bottom of the service scale, because they cost the most and are the least useful to the socialist society.

    • rl Crabb says:

      Here’s the reality, Russ. My diabetic wife now has medical coverage that she could never have purchased at any price before. This is a fact, period.

    • There is already such a caste system in place, with primary members of Congress, the Executive Branch and the Supremes, and their families, already in place. As for death panels, the doctors themselves opt out of being, “in network” for many supposedly “compressive” (and damn expensive) plans. Thus if you go to ER at Sierra Nevada Memorial Hospital, because your plan says it covers ER there, you then learn, AFTER the fact, that the x-rays, the blood tests, and the doctors are all “out of network.”

      How the heck they can call an ER an ER, and not be including the necessaries above, I will be testing over the coming months. To me, this is just plain fraud, all in the name of making cash to pay for those who come without insurance. Obamacare or better is the bare minimum we need to pay for the healthcare needed the minimum wage workers brought into this country to keep wages down for the 1%.

      It’s been a clever scam by the 1% to make the taxpayers pay for what should be part of the products and services they offer for sale. Not only did they drive wages down, now they expect the 99% to pick up the tab for healthcare, anytime they might actually need what they’ve ALREADY paid the premiums for. You don’t have cash for a transplant? Cheney does, he’ll take your heart, because “the little people” don’t need them.

  2. Russ Steele says:

    Opps Should read “military medical”

  3. Don Baumgart says:

    The real death pill for oldsters is – jerking your drivers license because you are old! Might as well sell the car, cancel the insurance and spend the proceeds on a better grade of dog food for dinner. To get groceries you will need a designated driver, or public transportation. You have just been deprived of the most treasured American possession. Wheels.

  4. Judith Lowry says:

    Don,

    I saw a spot on TV about senior driving programs like designed to keep elders behind the steering wheel. The man they were interviewing was in his nineties and still driving.
    My father-in law-is in his late eighties and he still races cars.
    There are some helpful websites for senior drivers.
    As we know by now, as unfair as it seems, healthy aging requires more physical exercise, not less.
    Same with the brain.
    AARP has free games that are quick and fun and help keep the the old grey matter “surging about a bit more freely”.
    Straying in the driver’s seat in old age is simply another of life’s many challenges to meet and master.
    Good luck.

  5. Tony Waters says:

    Bob,
    Nice cartoon about the death-panels we had before “Obamacare.” The new medical system is far from perfect, but it is preferable to the system we have had up to now. I just wish the Republicans would get on board and offer constructive critiques–which they are very capable of–rather than being the party of “my way or the highway.”

    Tony

    • rl Crabb says:

      I have to agree with the Republicans that the healthcare bill is a freakin’ mess, but when you are stuck with a pre-existing condition NOW and you can’t get coverage anywhere without signing your life away to the state, any little progress is appreciated. If the Republicans would have acted when they had the chance (like the nineties) maybe I’d have a little more respect for them. Waiting another four years while they dither is not an option for us.

      • Tony Waters says:

        Bob,
        I think we are of the same mind on this!

        Tony

        • Greg Goodknight says:

          Same here, but the flawed system we are losing to an even more flawed system (unless either the Supremes kill it or a Republican President does the coup de gras next January) is due to the Democratic congresses from WWII onward that allowed health care insurance to become employer centric.

          Just making insurance benefits taxable, requiring any preexisting condition be ignored if the patient had coverage at the time, and requiring any risk pool be no smaller than a congressional district would cover all the basics and wouldn’t require reforming one-sixth of the US economy in Nancy Pelosi’s image.

          • Tony Waters says:

            Greg,
            I can agree with much of what you right here. I would also add that there could be a $3000 or $4000 deductible so that health insurance became a true insurance policy against catastrophe.

            My regret is that the Republicans during the last 4-5 years have not put forward such alternatives, but just said “no.” The result is that the Democrats needed to pander to their own special interests in order to get the thing passed.

            And here we are. I’m still awful glad that diabetics like Bob’s wife are finally covered, and wouldn’t want to do anything to rescind that coverage, or bankrupt Bob in the process.

            Tony

      • Greg Goodknight says:

        Bob, the 90’s is when HillaryCare tried to make it worse. I don’t know about you but Hillary could have done better than to lock up a room of Yale educated lawyers behind closed doors to put together a partisan reformation, with Hillary’s portfolio shorting big pharma at the same time. But she didn’t know about that. Honest.

        Republicans did try, but central to that was reforming tort law which was driving costs sky high while making the likes of John Edwards richer than the Dreams of Avarice as they channeled the souls of dead babies to sympathetic juries. Trial Lawyers are a Democratic sacred cow whose antics drive up the cost of care, and Dems were able to sink any attempt to rein in those excesses.

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