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RL,
It all depends on who controls the definition of idiot. That is the real debate and always has been and always will be. A small privileged few or the majority of people.
With that said this quote comes to mind
“One man alone can be pretty dumb sometimes, but for real bona fide stupidity there ain’t nothing can beat teamwork.” Seldom Seen Smith
Yes Ben, we’ve have agreed on this point in the past:
http://img2.moonbuggy.org/imgstore/never-underestimate-the-power-of-stupid-people-in-large-groups.jpg
Not that this has ever been the case even after a short reading of American History, but the rules of discourse are completely f’ed up at this time. Why we allow “to the man” arguments with such serious topics is disturbing.
I’m not arguing against integrity or character. Those matter. But we need to judge the arguments and implementations(actions), not “the man.”
I think the dictionary defines “idiot” as any youth taught in a public school by a unionized teacher. LOL!
You mean like you and I were, Todd?
Just call me Idiot #1. You can be #2.
Thanks for clearing that up. I have always been a supporter of idiots’ right to free speech. It’s like letting in a ray of sunshine, usually in one ear and out the other.
> defines “idiot” as any youth taught in a public school
The facetious attempt at humor underscores our problem. It’s highly ironic.
The words “idiot,” “moron,” and “dumb” are descriptions 0f very real conditions, mental and physical. Words such as “nincompoops,” “knuckleheads,” and “numbskulls” may be derisive but are not particularly offensive or inappropriate, and in the case of most if not all politicians, those who insist on having their cellphones glued to their (numb) skulls 24/7, tailgaters and others in the “most annoying people on the planet” category, these words are probably correct description.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icmRCixQrx8&feature=youtu.be and Asimov:
““There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
― Isaac Asimov”
Not to worry about discriminating against idiots – they have had more than “equal rights” in our great nation. And their future role in influencing public affairs is ascendant and assured.
The idiot gene doesn’t discriminate according to political preference. The outstanding trait is an inability to accept responsibility for the actions of one’s ideology. Whatever is wrong with society is always the other guy’s fault, no matter where the evidence leads. Just today a new study finds that viewers of Fox News are dumber than average, which supposes that if one watches MSNBC or any of the other networks you are getting the whole unfiltered truth. And people wonder why “science” is so distrusted.
RL, is that like teachers blaming parents for failures in the classroom, rather than weak teachers (generally having the lowest college entrance exam scores) and fuzzy curriculums that fit the Teacher’s College vision but don’t actually work?
BTW, whatever the failings of the Fox audience, according to a recent Pew survey, they’re marginally better informed than the MSNBC audience.
Is your “new study” a snippet from the new Chris Mooney book, “The Republican Brain: The Science of Why They Deny Science and Reality”?
Mooney is an activist progressive blogger with a degree in English from Yale, with one fellow green journalist/blogger from Oregon having said Mooney is trying to be a progressive Ann Coulter. Perhaps the biggest bee up his bonnet is global warming, and he’s been slanting neurological research to show how Republicans have brains that just can’t accept the science he hasn’t studied himself but has nonetheless completely accepted, hook line and sinker.
Mooney’s book is intellectual bigotry at its worst. Everything he writes could be slanted in the opposite direction; fear is said by Mooney to be a primitive conservative motivation. So, that means progressives are more reckless, discounting the danger that the conservatives perceive because they are lacking?
For a look at our dysgenic future, catch “Idiocracy” (2006)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/
I must admit I don’t recall where I saw the “study” and have been too busy to look it up again. (Yeah, I actually do have jobs!)
Here it is…http://www.calbuzz.com/2012/04/why-watching-fox-news-will-in-fact-rot-your-brain/
Thanks Bob… note that it really was referencing the latest Chris Mooney diatribe, and none of that was new or well supported. One of the Calbuzz letter writers did a pretty good job of demolishing the claims.
With one exception, I have never anyone who would call himself an idiot. I have though met a lot of people who call others idiots. In fact they tend to call each other idiots, which makes me think that everyone is an idiot. Except maybe for that one person who calls himself an idiot and therefore may be the least idiotic in a roomful of idiots. RL, any thoughts?
Back in 1980, I was doing an interview with Bobby Angel on KVMR. Bobby asked me what I thought about something, and I replied, “Actually, Bobby, I don’t think.” The woman who was to become my first wife said that’s when she fell for me.
Of course, years later when she realized I really was an idiot, she divorced me.
This is why this blog is by far the most interesting one in Nevada County.
RL, I’ll buy you a drink for that.
Cheers.
Tony,
I have a group of friends from high school that we refer to ourselves as the idiots. We were and are a close nit group of about 30 that have been playing poker, going to the horse races, playing softball/ baseball leagues, and we even held idiot Olympics for a few years of quarters, beer pong, beer croquette, beer darts (you get the picture), blades of steel, golden tee, and a few other events but we finished it with a mile run after a day full of drinking beer among other things. We are all in our forties now and have slowed down a bit. I might have one drink at night, anything more seems like to much.
BenE says, “I have a group of friends from high school that we refer to ourselves as the idiots. We were and are a close nit group of about 30…”
I thought a “nit” was a head lice creature? LOL!
Come on, Todd. When it comes to spelling, you’re the pot calling the kettle blak.
LOL!
Todd,
Didn’t realize I was in English class. Missing the letter “k” in a typo is your critique, OK. One day I will care enough to proofread and edit my comments on blogs but I wouldn’t count on it anytime soon.
And I thought this was a blog of humor. Sheesh! What a sourpuss.
Todd,
I guess I need to take what you say with a grain of salt and assume it is meant to be humorous from now on. Thanks for clarifying it. Generally speaking, a guy who hangs out with a group of people who refer to themselves as idiots isn’t a sourpuss.
Liberals have no sense of humour. Sheesh!
Todd:
Ben said he is a card carrying member of the idiot club, not the liberal club. More precisely you could perhaps assert that idiots have no sense of humor, but brings us back to RL who clearly does have a sense of humor, and in the end…Sheesh!
Tony
Here’s another example of discrimination against idiocy…Let me people go!!!
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/223899-senators-look-to-strike-the-word-lunatic-from-federal-law
Here’s a pertinent article regarding idiocy: http://www.theunion.com/article/20120429/APE/1204290520&ParentProfile=1053