Beating Back The Baser Base

21 Responses to Beating Back The Baser Base

1. George Rebane says:

   April 28, 2018 at 2:34 pm

   The relationships of the Dems to the brave renewed world of the hammer and sickle are many. Can you put down a couple of observed relationships of Repubs reaching out to the neo-nazis (who, for openers, have never opted for smaller government)?

   Reply
   • RL CRABB says:

     May 6, 2018 at 7:47 am

     You hoo, George Rebane…Now look at the cartoon, and then read the article contained within this link. NOW do you get it?… http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/386394-california-gop-senate-candidate-who-admires-hitler-kicked-out-of-states-gop

     Reply
     • RL CRABB says:

       May 6, 2018 at 8:47 am

       The list goes on and on and on and… https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/04/opinions/strange-collection-of-extremists-running-as-republicans-opinion-love/index.html

       Reply
2. RL CRABB says:

   April 28, 2018 at 5:48 pm

   You have misinterpreted what’s going on here. The parties are trying to repress their baser instincts to some degree. While the Dems are becoming more comfortable with the socialist label, you won’t find too many that will openly embrace Marx, just yet anyway.

   The Republican party has always stood for limited government, in theory. That’s why they are pictured holding back the neo-nazi and KKK fringe, who would no doubt support more “defense” spending if it meant they could vaporize a few Muslims.

   Here’s one example. I’ll find a few more in due course… https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/04/national-socialism-neo-nazis-america-donald-trump

   Reply
3. RL CRABB says:

   April 28, 2018 at 5:59 pm

   Maybe these guys are crisis actors, eh?… https://www.cbsnews.com/video/hate-rising-white-supremacy-in-america/

   Reply
4. George Rebane says:

   April 30, 2018 at 8:43 am

   Bob – I’m looking for evidence that the Republicans ever had a base or even “baser instincts” that fostered neo-nazism. You are confusing as to who is seeking whom – just because there are some neo-nazis claiming to like Trump doesn’t mean that Trump or the Republicans are reciprocating. It takes two to tango. Therefore, why isn’t it the Democrat ass that holds back both the communists and the nazis – both are socialists with a bit different stripes? What am I missing?

   Reply
   • rl crabb says:

     April 30, 2018 at 8:56 am

     You’re under the impression that Republicans will govern as libertarians. Hardly a day goes by that I don’t see some Republican legislator proposing some new restriction on women, gays, Muslims, etc. etc. Give them enough power and they’ll become just another swamp of repression. I suppose I could dig up numerous examples, but no one from your camp would believe it was anything but “fake news.” When you’re blind in one eye, you can only see reality from one perspective.

     Reply
     • RL CRABB says:

       May 2, 2018 at 5:57 am

       As I recall, the fascists in Germany required homosexuals to wear a pink triangle. There seems to be a good deal of sympathy among your people for that kind of thing… https://www.aclu.org/other/legislation-affecting-lgbt-rights-across-country

       Reply
       • RL CRABB says:

         May 2, 2018 at 6:02 am

         Your party doesn’t care much for Muslims either… https://haasinstitute.berkeley.edu/new-database-exposes-anti-muslim-legislation-across-us

         Reply
         • RL CRABB says:

           May 2, 2018 at 9:14 am

           Torture is patriotic, right?… http://thehill.com/homenews/media/385849-pence-scolded-by-hume-scarborough-for-praising-arpaio
     • steve frisch says:

       May 2, 2018 at 7:53 pm

       Or as George would respectfully call it the “LGTBXYZ” movement.

       Reply
   • Chris Peterson says:

     May 1, 2018 at 10:18 am

     Political scientists discover a black hole in Nevada County:

     Rebane: “What am I missing?”

     Reply
5. Steve Frisch says:

   May 1, 2018 at 7:39 am

   Seriously great example of just how out of touch with the Republican Party and its baser instincts George appears to be….but only appears.

   “There are some very fine people on both sides…”

   The reality is one could go alll the way back to the Republican Party of the late 40’s and early 50’s and find numerous examples of the Republican base acting like Nazi’s…anti-United Nations movement, McCarthy, the Dulles Brothers, Nazi immigrants to the US, overthrough of governments across the world, clandestine killings, the John Birch Society, the Southern Strategy, the Powell Memo, neo-conservativism, reactionary policy against dissidents.

   I am not saying that Democrats have been much better, they were not for a long time; but to not see the clear connection between the authoritarianism of the Nazi movement and the current anti-gay, anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim, pussy grabbing, anti-voting rights, anti-civil rights, militarized police, anti-free press, dictator loving idiot in the White House is amazing.

   BTW, this bullcrap, histoically inaccurate meme advanced by George persistently that both communists and Nazis are ‘socialist’ is a prime example of propoganda and historic revisionism. It is like saying the Democratic Republic of Korea is a democracy because ‘democratic’ is in its name. No respected historian or serious examination of how the National Socialist state actually worked would come to the conclusion they were socialists.

   Which really just goes to show you how good closeted authoritarians are at propoganda eeven if they don’t openly recognize their roots.

   Reply
6. Steve Frisch says:

   May 1, 2018 at 7:40 am

   Oops, as usual typed too fast and made a few spelling errors.

   Reply
7. RL CRABB says:

   May 2, 2018 at 6:09 am

   In the interest of fairness, hardly a day goes by that I also see more apologists for Marx and socialism in general… http://reason.com/archives/2018/05/02/the-useful-idiots-spreading-socialist-pr/1

   Reply
   • RL CRABB says:

     May 2, 2018 at 8:28 am

     And then there’s this… https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/after-14-years-ive-had-it-im-leaving-seattle/

     Reply
   • Chris Peterson says:

     May 2, 2018 at 1:14 pm

     As long as we can establish some ground rules of communication, this can be a useful dialogue. Hence:

     Socialism is an economic system while communism is both an economic and political system. … Socialists can own personal properties while communists can not. Socialism allows capitalism to exist in its midst while communism seeks to get rid of capitalism.

     It’s why the Swedish model works; it’s a democratically-controlled system that doesn’t suffer from communist ideology. Most of their capitalist endeavors are downright conservative in nature, and though their taxes are high, they’ve got it dialed in so that they don’t pay for a lot of anything else, (a fact proven out by the presence of vacationing Swedes on just about every beach in the world I’ve ever been to).

     .

     Reply
     • RL CRABB says:

       May 4, 2018 at 10:28 am

       “This time we’ll get it right!”… https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/30/opinion/karl-marx-at-200-influence.html

       Reply
       • Chris Peterson says:

         May 4, 2018 at 12:44 pm

         Hence the conservative mantra to hang onto the past, a social order which comes from the top, and the never-ending call for progressive change, which is always the struggle of those below who seek social equality.
         In that manner, I don’t think we’ll ever “get it right”, at least not in any foreseeable future. I’m not one of those who believe that human nature will ever allow us to be truly all-equal, mainly because, we simply aren’t.

         Reply
         • RL CRABB says:

           May 7, 2018 at 4:46 am

           More on Marx… https://qz.com/1269525/capitalism-is-unfolding-exactly-as-karl-marx-predicted/
8. RL CRABB says:

   May 3, 2018 at 6:04 pm

   You can’t make this stuff up… https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2018/05/03/gop-west-virginia-candidate-launches-racial-attack-on-mitch-mcconnell-n2477305

   Reply