My first Joe cartoon. Even the Washington Post gave him four Pinocchios for his comments. I’m still on the fence over giving voters water while they stand in line, but it’s clear that the rhetoric overwhelmed the facts on this one.
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Bob, anyone can give anything, including water, to voters standing in line as long as the giver is not seen to be soliciting a vote. Besides the hefty helpings of lies about the Georgia voter law, didn’t any of the lamestream outlets explain that to their audiences? Rejoice, no need to balance yourself on the fence.
I know there’s always been a law about electioneering within 100 feet of a polling place, but what if you’re in line half a mile away? And then there’s that part about the legislature being able to override the Secretary of State and the local electeds? There are so many questionable questions…
There’s already a law against what some Republican state legislatures are feigning to protect. It’s called 18 U.S. Code ยง 594 – Intimidation of voters. Look it up, George.
These new laws are, quite simply, a brazen attempt to counter the will of the people in an otherwise fair election. It is a knee-jerk reaction of the growing conservative, (read as bigoted), fear that minority voters, if allowed to vote unencumbered and in conjunction with white liberal voters, will replace the rule of the minority party with that of a true representation of the majority of citizens.
In the end, these efforts by the white minority party are doomed to failure, as the sheer number of citizens who oppose them is past the tipping point and will only continue to grow proportionally in their favor.
Water, or no water, the prejudice of the past cannot stop the will of the majority in our democratic republic. The people of Georgia have been shown the power of their vote and you can’t put that genie back in the bottle. And those who’s ancestors brought slaves to our shores to do their bidding will now pay the heavy price of their transgressions.
Wow! You really misunderstood that much?
I think Chris understood completely but your bias gives you only tunnel vision that focuses on BS right wing lies.
C’mon, George, read the damn law:
“No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector,”
Legally, when they say “nor shall”, it’s a stand-alone declaration. And under that reality, can a person be arrested for distributing bottles of water to people standing in line to vote? Absolutely, and therein lies the authorization for further voter intimidation and suppression.
And just imagine; followers of Christ in a heavily evangelical region, denying water to those who thirst. How ironically absurd to make such a mockery of ones’ own religion. It is the sheer ignorance of such a gesture that makes it so alarming. And the defense of it by others as nothing but an improvement to the democratic system by the losing party is an outright insult to anyone with an IQ of over 100, (or, as they are commonly called, progressives).
I’ve never expected to be served food and water when at a polling place.
Did you have to wait hours to vote Kesti? I seriously doubt it. I don’t think anyone is serving food or water. More like offering someone a bottle of water if they are thirsty. An apple or a peach as a snack. Just what would the issue?
I’d like to see a menu, please.
You’re correct, Ken, that I’ve never had to wait hours to vote. If I thought that I might, though, I’d be a responsible adult, plan ahead, and bring with me that which I would need to endure the hardship. I find no significant distinction between serving and offering as you have used them here. The issue, of course, is that it is illegal and rightly so, in my opinion, as it far too easily becomes electioneering.
It’s a very sad statement that someone could buy your vote with a bottle of water. But, of course, you’re not speaking of yourself; you’re worried about your fellow citizens of a lesser mental capacity who could be convinced to vote one way or the other with 16 ounces of H2O, (assuming someone who’s committed enough to stand in line for hours to vote one way or the other in the first place could be bribed by a drink of water). What an absolutely laughable argument.
How refreshing to know what you really think of the ethical constitution of the rest of us.
Cheers.
It would be a sad statement if any of what you have said were what I intended. I have observed that changes in our country, especially changes involving politics, rarely happen suddenly in single steps. Instead, change occurs incrementally, with each step justified by the previous. It should not be difficult to see that if candidate’s supporters are today allowed to supply refreshments to voters queued to vote then tomorrow they are likely to build on that until they are, in fact, swaying votes. Perhaps it was your desire to insult that blinded you to such possibilities.
But you’re correct about my opinion of the “ethical constitution” of others. You see, I have spent the last 7 weeks seeking a new rental home and about 60% of those that I have contacted in response to what have appeared to be legitimate listings have turned out to be scammers. It has been quite the eye-opener.
Here is what the Georgia law actually sats:
“(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method , nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including but not limited to, food or drink, to an elector, nor shall nay person solicit signatures for any petition, nor shall any person, other than election officials discharging their duties, establish or set up any tables or booths, on any day when ballots are being cast:
(1). Within 150 feet of the outer edge of any building within which a polling place is
established;
(2). Within any polling place; or
(3). Within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote in any polling place.
These restrictions shall not apply to conduct occurring in private offices or in areas that cannot be seen or heard by such electors.”
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So in other words George Rebane is completely, 100% factually wrong, incorrect and full of beans.
There is no provision in the law that states these conditions only if the person providing food or drink is soliciting a vote. There is not provision that says it only applies with 100 feet of the polling place. It says “within 25 feet of any voter standing in line…”
The question really is George just ignorant or is he intentionally lying.
The whole spirit, intent, and implementation of the law revolves around the notion of ‘soliciting votes’. Absent that, as countless commentators, politicians, and lawyers have already weighed in, there is no prohibition against offering succor to those in line waiting to vote. So SteveF again seems to miss the real question.
Except that is not what the actual Georgia law says George.
As Chris pointed out there is already a federal law that prohibits solicitation within a certain distance of a polling place, and the Georgia law prohibits solicitation as well.
How about we create a voting system where people don’t need to stand in line for hours, then we would not need to worry about giving them water….
https://www.npr.org/2020/10/17/924527679/why-do-nonwhite-georgia-voters-have-to-wait-in-line-for-hours-too-few-polling-pl
…but as Mr. Kesti pointed out HE has never experienced that …I wonder why not?
Hey,, everyone, George says the white, conservative legislature of Georgia, which got slaughtered in the last election, is trying to make it easier for minorities to vote.
He’s either attempting to be comical, or being absurdly ignorant. He needs to return to his own blog if he’s going to spin BS like that.
More info: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/breaking-claims-georgias-election-law-true/story?id=76897349&fbclid=IwAR2NFe3G-yZgN8dIH6cw5ToIyRSmqvetgRF0z93bB2exzXFA7gQ5pKWazuY